[NASAFACS] Family and Consumer Sciences

Laura Ergle LErgle at doe.k12.ga.us
Tue Mar 6 18:01:52 MST 2012


Hi Peggy,

Thanks for forwarding to the correct listserve!!



Yes, I agree, as I mentioned, we need to have an agenda - and that is why we need to have input from all states.

Currently in GA - FACS is in 3 clusters - Hospitality, Education & Human Services.



I liked the idea of FACS being noted as covering a wide range of areas....but as I have thought more about it - I think there is safety and security in having a hold in numerous clusters.  I do feel like we need the FACS name recognition somewhere and somehow though - as that is a major reason we are losing some programs - because all do not understand the clusters and realize FACS is spread around them - they are just looking for the name recognition.



We definitely do need a consensus on the approach - as it is very important that we are a unified group - and do not come across as a bunch of bumbling women.  We are obviously not going to make everyone happy - as our states are so diversified - so please share your input and thoughts - and I will compile the data.  Once we have heard from you - I will  share back so we can have some discussions on the best approach.



I too look forward to conversations from different states.



Laura :)







Laura Ergle

Program Specialist, Family & Consumer Sciences,

Culinary and Education

Career, Technical and Agricultural Education

Georgia Department of Education

1752 Twin Towers East, Atlanta GA 30334

(404) 463-6406 phone (770) 344-4435 fax

lergle at doe.k12.ga.us

http://www.gadoe.org

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From: nasafacs-bounces at lists.uen.org [nasafacs-bounces at lists.uen.org] on behalf of Peggy Wild [pwild at doe.in.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 7:00 PM
To: nasafacs at lists.uen.org
Subject: [NASAFACS] FW: Family and Consumer Sciences

Laura, and All,

I just noticed that your message went to the old Listserv address, so I'm forwarding to the new (UEN) address.

I'm glad to read that you've been able to get the attention of the NASDCTEc folks to discuss our place in the Cluster organization.  I hope we can have a lot of discussion about this idea on the ListServ leading up to the meeting so that we can go in with really strong consensus and a well-crafted rationale for whatever we end up proposing.

I'll start the ball rolling by saying let's think and consider what would be gained and what might be lost by having just one cluster for F&CS.  Different states will have different perspectives on that, so maybe we want to hear from many states before we settle on endorsing one course of action.  With the model of 3 ways F&CS contributes to pathways (foundational for all students/all pathways; supporting content for multiple pathways; and preparation for F&CS careers), we've gained a lot of ground in my state.  Pulling out of that approach and supporting one cluster of F&CS pathways - might be losing ground instead of gaining.

I hope others will share what is happening with their clusters, pathways, courses, etc.  Can't wait to follow the "conversations."

Peggy

Peggy Wild, PhD, CFCS, State Program Leader
Family & Consumer Sciences, College & Career Pathways
Center for College & Career Readiness
Indiana Department of Education
pwild at doe.in.gov<mailto:pwild at doe.in.gov>
317.232.9169

F&CS www.doe.in.gov/family<http://www.doe.in.gov/achievement/career-education/family-and-consumer-sciences>
Pathways www.doe.in.gov/pathways<http://doe.in.gov/achievement/career-education/indiana-college-career-pathways>




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From: nasafacs-bounces at listserv.doe.state.in.us on behalf of Laura Ergle
Sent: Sun 3/4/2012 10:27 AM
To: Glover, Eleanor
Cc: nasafacs at listserv.doe.state.in.us
Subject: Re: [NASAFACS] Family and Consumer Sciences


Hi Eleanor!



Wonderful letter of support - and as a matter of fact - I have already planted this seed.
A few months ago I asked for NASAFACS to be the Career Cluster Leader for Human Services.

It took some weeks to get a response - and at this time with the revision of skills and knowledge,

NASDCTE does not wish to name a cluster leader.



Upon hearing that - I sent a letter to Dean Folkers and Kim Green advising the omission of FACS

is hurting our programs across the nation. FACS is found in many clusters - but with the exception of personal care services - the other pathways in the Human Services cluster are FACS pathways.  Would there be a possibility of including FACS in the Human Services title - i.e. Family, Consumer and Human Services?  Then, if we could get recognition for cluster leader - perhaps we could add move some of the other FACS pathways - that might be in other clusters - to this cluster.



I personally like the idea you proposed in your letter.





Dean Folkers has just accepted our invitation to attend our NASAFACS meeting in May - Kim has a previous engagement, but will be available via virtual, if possible.  I hope at this meeting we can share the need for the FACS title to be included in some form or fashion.  I will be using the info I requested a few months back to compile some data - and will use Janis' research and anyone else's research they are willing to share.



So - we will have a portion of the agenda dedicated to this topic.  It is going to be real important that we have an agenda and present this in a professional manner - and do not come across as a bunch of emotional women.



So - anyone else that has data to share regarding the FACS programs in their states - please send to me.



I do hope as many of you as possible will be able to attend the May Meeting - I think the recognition of FACS is foremost to sustaining our programs across the nation.



Any other ideas or suggestions - please send to me.



Many thanks,  Laura









Laura Ergle

Program Specialist, Family & Consumer Sciences,

Culinary and Education

Career, Technical and Agricultural Education

Georgia Department of Education

1752 Twin Towers East, Atlanta GA 30334

(404) 463-6406 phone (770) 344-4435 fax

lergle at doe.k12.ga.us

http://www.gadoe.org

________________________________
From: Glover, Eleanor [EGlover at ed.sc.gov]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 3:10 PM
To: Laura Ergle; grandel at ksde.org
Subject: FW: Family and Consumer Sciences

FYI; Planting a seed. Not sure we have made this request. I will let you know what the response is.

Dr. Eleanor R. Abel Glover, Ed. Associate
Office of Career and Technology Education
South Carolina Department of Education
924 Rutledge Building
1429 Senate Street
Columbia, SC 29201
803-734-3826 phone
803-734-3525 fax
eglover at ed.sc.gov<mailto:eglover at ed.sc.gov>
http://www.ed.sc.gov<http://www.ed.sc.gov/>


From: Glover, Eleanor
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 3:06 PM
To: 'kgreen at careertech.org'
Subject: Family and Consumer Sciences

Dear Ms. Green,
I am sending this e-mail on behalf of Family and Consumer Sciences and our needs relative to the career clusters. My name is Dr. Eleanor Abel Glover and I am the Education Associate for Family and Consumer Sciences in the South Carolina Department of Education. I am a member of the National Association of State Administrators for Family and Consumer Sciences. Family and Consumer Sciences professionals have been seeking methods of developing a career cluster that reflects our profession. When the 16 career clusters are researched all of my colleagues’ program areas are obvious based on the listings, such as Agriculture, Health Sciences, Business, etc. Because we are embedded in a number of clusters, the cluster concept has inadvertently diminished the importance of Family and Consumer Sciences.

We as state administrators continue to seek ways to bring Family and Consumer Sciences to the forefront. A survey conducted by Janis Meeks (North Carolina) in 2008 displayed the career clusters and the number of states that aligned Family and Consumer Sciences courses with each cluster. Fourteen of the sixteen career clusters were aligned with Family and Consumer Sciences courses (see attachment). We have found that alignment with a number of different clusters  somewhat compromises the integrity of Family and Consumer Sciences and takes away from the possibility of establishing nationwide consistency for Family and Consumer Sciences.

It would be most beneficial to us if the Family and Consumer Sciences Career Cluster would reflect our Sixteen Areas of study. We would also like the opportunity to focus on one career cluster. We would be willing to use the existing template and initiatives to develop the cluster to meet the same criteria as all other career clusters.  The sixteen areas are listed below.

1.0  Career, Community and Family Connections
<http://nasafacs.org/uploads/3/0/0/4/3004417/ns4fcs-1-careercommunity.docx> 2.0 Consumer and Family Resources
<http://nasafacs.org/uploads/3/0/0/4/3004417/ns4fcs-2-consumerresources.docx> 3.0 Consumer Services
<http://nasafacs.org/uploads/3/0/0/4/3004417/ns4fcs-3-consumerservices.docx> 4.0 Education and Early Childhood
<http://nasafacs.org/uploads/3/0/0/4/3004417/ns4fcs-4-educationearlychild.docx> 5.0 Facilities Management and Maintenance
<http://nasafacs.org/uploads/3/0/0/4/3004417/ns4fcs-5-facilitiesmanagement.docx> 6.0 Family
<http://nasafacs.org/uploads/3/0/0/4/3004417/ns4fcs-6-family.docx> 7.0 Family and Community Services
<http://nasafacs.org/uploads/3/0/0/4/3004417/ns4fcs-7-familycommunityservice.docx> 8.0 Food Production and Services
<http://nasafacs.org/uploads/3/0/0/4/3004417/ns4fcs-8-foodproductionservice.docx> 9.0 Food Science, Dietetics and Nutrition
<http://nasafacs.org/uploads/3/0/0/4/3004417/ns4fcs-9-foodsciencedietetics.docx>10.0 Hospitality, Tourism and Recreation
<http://nasafacs.org/uploads/3/0/0/4/3004417/ns4fcs-10-hospitality.docx>11.0 Housing and Interior Design
<http://nasafacs.org/uploads/3/0/0/4/3004417/ns4fcs-11-interiordesign.docx>12.0 Human Development
<http://nasafacs.org/uploads/3/0/0/4/3004417/ns4fcs-12-humandevelopment.docx>13.0 Interpersonal Relationships
<http://nasafacs.org/uploads/3/0/0/4/3004417/ns4fcs-13-interpersonal.docx>14.0 Nutrition and Wellness
<http://nasafacs.org/uploads/3/0/0/4/3004417/ns4fcs-14-nutrition.docx>15.0 Parenting
<http://nasafacs.org/uploads/3/0/0/4/3004417/ns4fcs-15-parenting.docx>16.0 Textiles, Fashion and Apparel<http://nasafacs.org/uploads/3/0/0/4/3004417/ns4fcs-16-textilesfashion.docx>

Would you be willing to work with us (FACS state administrators) to create a career cluster for Family and Consumer Sciences?  The creation of an additional career cluster would streamline some of the other clusters that are already in existence.

Our annual conference is scheduled for May 6-9, 2012, in Atlanta, GA. If at all possible, I would like to be able to provide a report for other state administrators based on this request and your response. Please let me know if you would be willing to work with us to develop a Family and Consumer Sciences Career Cluster. I appreciate any consideration you give to this proposal. ERG

Dr. Eleanor R. Abel Glover, Ed. Associate
Office of Career and Technology Education
South Carolina Department of Education
924 Rutledge Building
1429 Senate Street
Columbia, SC 29201
803-734-3826 phone
803-734-3525 fax
eglover at ed.sc.gov<mailto:eglover at ed.sc.gov>
http://www.ed.sc.gov<http://www.ed.sc.gov/>






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