[Library Media] Start Over Again -- Every Year

georgeweight at integrity.com georgeweight at integrity.com
Wed Oct 24 01:23:06 MDT 2018


One of the pressures we were facing back in the '80's was the replacement
of Library Media Teachers with Teaching Assistants/Aides at the secondary
level, especially in rural schools. I'm not sure what current conditions
are. Has USOE required licensed teachers in all Utah Secondary Schools? Or
are many districts still using classified personnel? If they are, what
type of in-service training is being provided?

When substituting in several districts after retirement, I ran into a
secondary school who had a licensed professional, but he was required to
wear so many hats that he had little contact with students. The classified
Teaching Assistant, as near as I could tell, did a very good job with
circulation. I don't know what other capabilities and training she had.

What is the situation statewide in our secondary schools now?

Constant pressure needs to be brought to bear upon the USOE, Utah State
Legislature, and individual districts to insure we have qualified people
in our Library Media Centers who have the time and abilities to service
students and teachers with their information needs--especially, as has
been mentioned, with the influx of technology into our centers.

One of the things I pointed out to the Education Committee at the State
Legislature in the '80's was the reliance they placed on the Legislative
Analyst--who among other things, was an information specialist--and that
students and teachers need and deserve their own information specialist.

Maybe they need to be reminded again.

George Weight

> I work at a K-8 school and I am sort of re-inventing my 6-8 grade lessons.
> 6th grade is the only group I see weekly. When I get the middle school
> stuff figured out again, I will try to remember to share it.
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:35 PM Cindy Mitchell <
> cindy.mitchell at jordandistrict.org> wrote:
>
>> You should be very proud, Kathy.
>>
>> It takes a lot of time and effort to become an important part of a
>> school
>> and then maintain those relationships.  I feel like I need a refresher
>> and
>> inspiration on connecting with teachers and integrating research
>> methods.
>> I completely lost it a couple of years ago and I am struggling to create
>> connections and meaning in my job.
>>
>> Any scraps of wisdom you can throw my way would be greatly appreciated.
>> A
>> list of lessons that you teach regularly, perhaps?
>>
>> It sounds so basic - I mean I have been at this a LONG time, but I am
>> really foundering here.  I wonder sometimes what I did to crash so hard.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Kathy Ballard <
>> kathy.ballard at monticelloacademy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> As I have read your comments, I have grown to appreciate my situation
>>> even more. I am an intergral part of my school. I order the books and
>>> catalog the books, run the library, teach library and research classes
>>> and
>>> have the full support of the administrators. Sometimes it takes new
>>> faculty
>>> a little while to come to appreciate the classes I teach, but the
>>> eventually do. Parents are sometimes surprised that I am a teacher. A
>>> fourth grade class substitute a couple of weeks ago was amazed at the
>>> lesson I taught and our school library. I think I love my job even more
>>> today.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 1:10 PM Sydna Graf
>>> <sydna.graf at jordandistrict.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was frustrated by not being thought of as a teacher by our PTSA, so
>>>> I
>>>> wrote the following clarification. It's a little long and it felt like
>>>> I
>>>> was fishing for compliments, but we do need to educate people about
>>>> our
>>>> role.
>>>> Sydna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Every now and again, I have the feeling that the PTSA doesn't quite
>>>> know what to do with me. Am I a teacher? Am I staff? I love our PTSA.
>>>> I
>>>> am a former middle school PTSA president, and I know how hard they
>>>> work
>>>> for our school. They are wonderful.
>>>>
>>>> But I think there is confusion because most people don't understand
>>>> the
>>>> difference between an elementary library aide and a secondary library
>>>> teacher. Most active PTSA volunteers come from an elementary
>>>> background, and the elementary library aides in Jordan district are
>>>> 17-hour
>>>> aides that may or may not have a degree. They do not purchase or
>>>> process
>>>> books (that is done by fully certified librarians at the district
>>>> level).
>>>> If they teach, they use lessons prepared by the district. There are
>>>> great
>>>> elementary library aides, but they don't have the full
>>>> responsibilities of
>>>> secondary librarians.
>>>>
>>>> Secondary library teachers MUST have a teaching degree. (Some
>>>> secondary
>>>> librarians come from a public library background, but they must take
>>>> classes to certify as a teacher.) A person with a degree in education
>>>> needs
>>>> an additional endorsement to be a secondary library teacher. This
>>>> endorsement takes about 2 years to complete and is comprised of master
>>>> level classes. Most secondary library teachers have master's degrees
>>>> in
>>>> education and/or library science. All secondary library teachers are
>>>> in
>>>> charge of their own budgets, purchase and process books, create
>>>> lessons,
>>>> teach, and run their own library programs.
>>>>
>>>> I just thought it would be helpful to clarify this at the start of the
>>>> year, since I have sensed some confusion in the past. Not that I need
>>>> the
>>>> stuff the PTSA hands out (It is great stuff, and they make sure to
>>>> include staff, so no complaints), but I worked hard to become a
>>>> teacher,
>>>> and I thought the differences should be known.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 11:56 AM Heidi Leggat <
>>>> heidi.leggat at jordandistrict.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had it out with a lady in my neighborhood this last weekend (who is
>>>>> also a teacher) about EBSCO. She kept trying to tell me what a
>>>>> database
>>>>> was, as if I had no idea.  I even had English teachers trying to
>>>>> explain
>>>>> our side of the issue but she just wasn't having any of it.  Her only
>>>>> solutions were to either get rid of it or have EBSCO filter their own
>>>>> stuff
>>>>> (which raises even more problems in my opinion). I felt like her
>>>>> thoughts
>>>>> were that kids needed to be "protected" at all costs and teaching was
>>>>> not
>>>>> going to protect anyone!!!  It was frustrating to say the least.  I
>>>>> felt
>>>>> like I was talking to a wall.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:45 AM Justin Brooksby <jbrooksby at uen.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with what you say.  I believe David Long from Logan City
>>>>>> School District mentioned that more than filtering needs to be done.
>>>>>>  I
>>>>>> know he believes this but those details were not necessarily
>>>>>> expressed in
>>>>>> the meeting.  UEN would love to help push the message that teacher
>>>>>> librarians are an excellent resource to teach internet safety.
>>>>>> Please let
>>>>>> me know how we can best help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Justin Brooksby
>>>>>> Associate Director
>>>>>> Professional Development
>>>>>> Utah Education Network
>>>>>> Office: 801-581-5366
>>>>>> Twitter @brooksby
>>>>>> uen.org/development/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2018, at 9:57 AM, Wilson, James <
>>>>>> James.Wilson at canyonsdistrict.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sadly, we will always be in the mode of educating people what we do
>>>>>> and what training and education we have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On another note, I attended the UEN Board meeting last Friday.
>>>>>> While
>>>>>> they were discussing the EBSCO issue, the topic of how to keep kids
>>>>>> safe
>>>>>> online and teaching them to research information safely and
>>>>>> efficiently
>>>>>> came up numerous times.  Filters were the only solution discussed.
>>>>>> I kept
>>>>>> wanting to yell out “Certified-SL Endorsed Teacher Librarians!”
>>>>>> We teach
>>>>>> research.  We teach students how to find information safely and
>>>>>> efficiently, among the many other things we do!  I am saddened at
>>>>>> how many
>>>>>> time we are left out of the discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <image001.png>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James A. Wilson, M. Ed
>>>>>> Library Media Specialist
>>>>>> Canyons School District
>>>>>> Cell- 385.900.9607
>>>>>> Office- 801.826.5095
>>>>>> 9150 S. 500 West
>>>>>> Sandy, UT 84070
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *library-media <library-media-bounces at lists.uen.org> on
>>>>>> behalf
>>>>>> of Mariah Gerlach <mgerlach at providencehall.com>
>>>>>> *Date: *Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 9:22 AM
>>>>>> *Cc: *Library Media Listserv <library-media at lists.uen.org>, "
>>>>>> lanell.rabner at nebo.edu" <lanell.rabner at nebo.edu>
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Library Media] Start Over Again -- Every Year
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We feel you Cindy, and others!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the beginning of this year I got up and tooted my own horn to my
>>>>>> faculty. Basically gave them a quick verbal resume in faculty
>>>>>> meeting.  I
>>>>>> explained how I have a master's degree and the same teaching license
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> of them do.  I've felt like for the last few years I'm treated a bit
>>>>>> like a
>>>>>> convenient upstairs secretary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, I'm always happy to help, but it was actually some of my
>>>>>> faculty last year that found out I had credentials and encouraged me
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> share that information with the rest of the staff.  I think there
>>>>>> was an
>>>>>> assumption that I just sat at this desk and typed stuff all day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do get a little irritated when administration says "all these
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> are coming to each teacher this year"... and I'm like, me too?  Also
>>>>>> got
>>>>>> slighted out of the yearbook last year... but somehow my assistants
>>>>>> made it
>>>>>> in.  *shrug*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keep fighting the good fight!  I feel successful as long as the
>>>>>> students know I'm here. ☺
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Mariah Gerlach MLS*
>>>>>> *High School Librarian*
>>>>>> *ALA, AASL Member*
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>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 6:23 AM <georgeweight at integrity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still fighting for recognition. When I was on the board of UELMA,
>>>>>> serving
>>>>>> as its president for one year, we lobbied the legislature heavily to
>>>>>> keep
>>>>>> funding for school libraries. Our efforts resulted in getting
>>>>>> funding
>>>>>> stabilized, resulting in several thousand dollars retained by our
>>>>>> district
>>>>>> that otherwise would have been cut.
>>>>>> Did I get any recognition? No--just criticism for being away from
>>>>>> school
>>>>>> to perform lobbying efforts and pressure to replace me with a
>>>>>> classified
>>>>>> "librarian."
>>>>>> No offense to those classified people out there--but IMO school
>>>>>> libraries
>>>>>> don't function as well as they could without a certified and
>>>>>> committed
>>>>>> Library Media Teacher at the helm.
>>>>>> "Can't afford a Cadillac on a Ford budget" was the word I got from
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Sup.
>>>>>> Funny-that money that was retained more than paid for my salary.
>>>>>> BTW: if classified people are doing an effective job--and many
>>>>>> are--why
>>>>>> aren't they paid the same salary?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  > Reminds me of the year I lost my teacher money, because according
>>>>>> to the
>>>>>> > state, the football field was a classroom, but the library was
>>>>>> not!
>>>>>> Ya
>>>>>> > just
>>>>>> > gotta laugh!!!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ~lanell rabner
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:04 PM Crystal Hansen <
>>>>>> > crystal.hansen at jordandistrict.org> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> I have to remind someone in the office almost every year that my
>>>>>> school
>>>>>> >> picture goes in the faculty case. This year, because our faculty
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> >> large, I was basically told that there is no room for my picture
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>> >> Our
>>>>>> >> school population is bursting at the seams, so I didn't fight it
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> >> time,
>>>>>> >> but you are right that these things sting a little. Getting my
>>>>>> picture
>>>>>> >> with
>>>>>> >> the faculty in the yearbook has also been something I've had to
>>>>>> >> self-advocate for. A lot of people in the school just don't/won't
>>>>>> >> understand our role. It can be frustrating!
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>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Lanell Rabner, MLS
>>>>>> > Librarian
>>>>>> > Springville High School
>>>>>> > 1205 E. 900 S.
>>>>>> > Springville, UT 84663
>>>>>> > lanell.rabner at nebo.edu
>>>>>> > 801.489.2870
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Heidi Leggat
>>>>> Media Center Specialist
>>>>> Copper Hills High School
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Best quotes about libraries: Libraries always remind me that
>>>>> there are good things in this world. -Lauren Ward]
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>>
>> --
>> Cindy Mitchell
>> South Jordan Middle School
>> 10245 S 2700 W
>> South Jordan UT 84095
>> 801-412-2900
>> fax: 801-412-2930
>>
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