[Library Media] Overdue and Lost Library Book Fees

Sarah Herron Sarah.Herron at slcschools.org
Wed May 10 14:16:37 MDT 2017


Wow! Notices every week. I have Destiny, too, but I send them out quarterly. Not sure how weekly notices would fly with my parents. Thanks for the idea.

Sarah G. Herron
Conference Chair, Utah Educational Library Media Association
Library Technology Teacher, M. Ed.
East High School
840 South 1300 East
Salt Lake City, Utah 84102
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From: library-media [mailto:library-media-bounces at lists.uen.org] On Behalf Of Sydna Graf
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:49 PM
To: Crystal Hansen <crystal.hansen at jordandistrict.org>
Cc: Lanell Rabner <lanell.rabner at nebo.edu>; Teacher Librarians <library-media at lists.uen.org>
Subject: Re: [Library Media] Overdue and Lost Library Book Fees

Lanell and Heather, if a book is really overdue (or just slightly overdue, but in higher demand). I send a note to the student and have them come talk to me. Often, the book is just hanging out in their backpack or locker. It is rarely lost. The students (especially middle school students) just need a personal invitation to return the book. I send out an email about overdue books and fines every week. I use Destiny and it is sent automatically and goes to student emails and parent emails.

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Sydna Graf <sydna.graf at jordandistrict.org<mailto:sydna.graf at jordandistrict.org>> wrote:
For those of you that don't charge fines, how do you pay for extras in the library? My fine money goes right back to the kids in the form of candy and other prizes, books for my book club, and any other extras. I make sure to tell the students that in my orientation and also in emailed fine notices. I think it makes students and parents feel better about paying fines. I am also flexible. If I know a student can't pay a fine, I excuse it.

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Crystal Hansen <crystal.hansen at jordandistrict.org<mailto:crystal.hansen at jordandistrict.org>> wrote:
I also charge .10 per day for fines with a maximum of $5.00 per book. I've considered getting rid of late fines, but I feel that they do motivate students to bring books back on time and to learn personal responsibility.  I'm always willing to work with kids who have been sick, etc. and am flexible, but I do agree that aside from the responsibility angle, it gives other kids the chance to use library materials instead of having them MIA all school year.

Crystal Hansen
Herriman High School
Library/Media

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:52 AM, LynnDell Watson <lynndell.watson at millardk12.org<mailto:lynndell.watson at millardk12.org>> wrote:
I do the same thing at Delta High School that Lanell does at Sprinville High School and it has been very beneficial to our library.  I am glad to hear that I am not the only one not charging fines.

LynnDell Watson
Librarian
Delta High School

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Lanell Rabner <lanell.rabner at nebo.edu<mailto:lanell.rabner at nebo.edu>> wrote:
At Springville High School I do not charge any fines for overdue books. My experience has been that kids don't pay them and don't return the book either. I just want my books back and not charging fines seems to get me more books back. However, I do charge for lost books and that can keep a kid from walking at graduation or registering for school during the summer time.

~lanell rabner
Librarian
Springville High School

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Heather Anderson <heather.anderson at juabsd.org<mailto:heather.anderson at juabsd.org>> wrote:
Do any of you stop charging fines when it gets to a certain dollar amount?


On May 10, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Shay Walton <Shay.Walton at loganschools.org<mailto:Shay.Walton at loganschools.org>> wrote:

In a high school setting, I have found that fines do help in getting materials back to the library for other students to be able to check them out. I charge a very small, $0.05 fine. I send out fine notices often and because the daily fine is so small it doesn't add up to much, but is still an incentive for high school students to return their items. They are charged for lost or damaged books as well. I'm very flexible with how I collect fines however. For example: If a student has a 35 cent fine and only has 25 cents, I often take what they have, waive the extra, and call it good. Students who are trying to be responsible, still get to be responsible, but it makes things more relaxed. I also try to know my students enough that if I know that they are trying to get books in on time but they really can't pay the fee, then I don't charge them. If they offer to help in the library instead of paying their fee and are comfortable about it, I take them up on that, but I don't usually put it out there as an option myself. Students have to pay their fees by the end of the school year to take part in final student checkout and receive their yearbook. I waive any fees that are under $2.00 at the end of the year, but require any that are more than that to be paid.

Shay






>>> Heather Novotny <hnovotny at mcgillisschool.org<mailto:hnovotny at mcgillisschool.org>> 5/10/2017 10:30 AM >>>
We don't charge fines, but parents are expected to pay for lost or damaged materials. I personally don't think fines are a good idea in a school library. Fines in the public library settings I've worked in were justified internally as being necessary to secure the return of materials, and did not have any expectation of teaching the public responsibility. If you view fines through that lens (which I think is professionally appropriate) then fines are unnecessary in a school situation where all materials are called back annually. Make sense?

What we are doing is notifying parents twice of when books are due, and in the second notice we say you will be billed for the lost materials on the last day of school unless you make prior arrangements with the parents. My first notice (gently worded over a million revisions) goes out Friday. But, the students all know that books are due at the end of the year, and materials are already trickling in. From reports I'm running, about 10% of our collection is currently checked out, and I've got 84 items lost from inventory. Should be OK, right?

best,
Heather

Heather Novotny
Librarian
The McGillis School
668 South 1300 East Salt Lake City, UT 84102
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From: Sarah Herron <Sarah.Herron at slcschools.org<mailto:Sarah.Herron at slcschools.org>>
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Subject: [Library Media] Overdue and Lost Library Book Fees
Hello!


Chris Haught from SEDC asked me a question about how UT school libraries handle lost and/or overdue book fees. Chris said, “I searched and found a lot of opinions and district policies, but nothing definitive. I once was told that it was illegal to charge elementary school students for lost books, and even fines because they were too young to enter into a contract.”


Any ideas on this topic? We would love to hear your input.


Thanks!


Sarah Herron




Sarah G. Herron
Conference Chair, Utah Educational Library Media Association
Library Technology Teacher, M. Ed.
East High School
840 South 1300 East
Salt Lake City, Utah 84102
Email: sarah.herron at slcschools.org<mailto:sarah.herron at slcschools.org>
Phone:    801-583-1661 x2202<tel:(801)%20583-1661>
Fax:         801-584-2927<tel:(801)%20584-2927>


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