[Library Media] Overdue and Lost Library Book Fees

Lanell Rabner lanell.rabner at nebo.edu
Wed May 10 13:29:38 MDT 2017


For those of you who do charge overdue fines, how quickly do kids respond
and bring their books back? How often do you have to send out overdue
notices to get them to bring back materials?

If I have students who keep new books out for an extended period of time, I
just buy a new book and assess the replacement cost to the student and that
is a fine that does not go away, even when they eventually return the book.

~lanell rabner

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Heather Novotny <
hnovotny at mcgillisschool.org> wrote:

> Crystal, I really appreciate your point about fines and the fairness
> issue, i.e. returning library books on time makes them available for others
> to use.
>
> Does having fines reduce lost from inventory items? I have 84 lost from
> inventory on a collection of 12,000 items (10,000 titles). On the face of
> it that seems acceptable to me, but when you look at what's on the list, it
> is all the new stuff I bought this year, and if I had those materials back
> 2-3 more kids could read them before the end of the year...Thoughts?
>
>
> Heather Novotny
>
> Librarian
>
> The McGillis School
>
> 668 South 1300 East Salt Lake City, UT 84102
>
> hnovotny at mcgillisschool.org
>
>
>
> * From: * Crystal Hansen <crystal.hansen at jordandistrict.org>
> * To: * LynnDell Watson <lynndell.watson at millardk12.org>
> * Cc: * Teacher Librarians <library-media at lists.uen.org>, Lanell Rabner <
> lanell.rabner at nebo.edu>
> * Sent: * 5/10/2017 12:51 PM
> * Subject: * Re: [Library Media] Overdue and Lost Library Book Fees
>
> I also charge .10 per day for fines with a maximum of $5.00 per book. I've
> considered getting rid of late fines, but I feel that they do motivate
> students to bring books back on time and to learn personal responsibility.
> I'm always willing to work with kids who have been sick, etc. and am
> flexible, but I do agree that aside from the responsibility angle, it gives
> other kids the chance to use library materials instead of having them MIA
> all school year.
>
> Crystal Hansen
> Herriman High School
> Library/Media
>
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:52 AM, LynnDell Watson <
> lynndell.watson at millardk12.org> wrote:
>
> I do the same thing at Delta High School that Lanell does at Sprinville
> High School and it has been very beneficial to our library.  I am glad to
> hear that I am not the only one not charging fines.
>
> LynnDell Watson
> Librarian
> Delta High School
>
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Lanell Rabner <lanell.rabner at nebo.edu>
> wrote:
>
> At Springville High School I do not charge any fines for overdue books. My
> experience has been that kids don't pay them and don't return the book
> either. I just want my books back and not charging fines seems to get me
> more books back. However, I do charge for lost books and that can keep a
> kid from walking at graduation or registering for school during the summer
> time.
>
> ~lanell rabner
> Librarian
> Springville High School
>
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Heather Anderson <
> heather.anderson at juabsd.org> wrote:
>
> Do any of you stop charging fines when it gets to a certain dollar amount?
>
>
>
> On May 10, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Shay Walton <Shay.Walton at loganschools.org>
> wrote:
>
> In a high school setting, I have found that fines do help in getting
> materials back to the library for other students to be able to check them
> out. I charge a very small, $0.05 fine. I send out fine notices often and
> because the daily fine is so small it doesn't add up to much, but is still
> an incentive for high school students to return their items. They are
> charged for lost or damaged books as well. I'm very flexible with how I
> collect fines however. For example: If a student has a 35 cent fine and
> only has 25 cents, I often take what they have, waive the extra, and call
> it good. Students who are trying to be responsible, still get to be
> responsible, but it makes things more relaxed. I also try to know my
> students enough that if I know that they are trying to get books in on time
> but they really can't pay the fee, then I don't charge them. If they offer
> to help in the library instead of paying their fee and are comfortable
> about it, I take them up on that, but I don't usually put it out there as
> an option myself. Students have to pay their fees by the end of the school
> year to take part in final student checkout and receive their yearbook. I
> waive any fees that are under $2.00 at the end of the year, but require any
> that are more than that to be paid.
>
> Shay
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> Heather Novotny <hnovotny at mcgillisschool.org> 5/10/2017 10:30 AM >>>
> We don't charge fines, but parents are expected to pay for lost or damaged
> materials. I personally don't think fines are a good idea in a school
> library. Fines in the public library settings I've worked in were justified
> internally as being necessary to secure the return of materials, and did
> not have any expectation of teaching the public responsibility. If you view
> fines through that lens (which I think is professionally appropriate) then
> fines are unnecessary in a school situation where all materials are called
> back annually. Make sense?
>
> What we are doing is notifying parents twice of when books are due, and in
> the second notice we say you will be billed for the lost materials on the
> last day of school unless you make prior arrangements with the parents. My
> first notice (gently worded over a million revisions) goes out Friday. But,
> the students all know that books are due at the end of the year, and
> materials are already trickling in. From reports I'm running, about 10% of
> our collection is currently checked out, and I've got 84 items lost from
> inventory. Should be OK, right?
>
> best,
> Heather
>
>
> Heather Novotny
> Librarian
> The McGillis School
> 668 South 1300 East Salt Lake City, UT 84102
> hnovotny at mcgillisschool.org
>
>
>
> *From: *Sarah Herron <Sarah.Herron at slcschools.org>
> *To: *"library-media at lists.uen.org" <library-media at lists.uen.org>
> *Sent: *5/10/2017 9:38 AM
> *Subject: *[Library Media] Overdue and Lost Library Book Fees
>
> Hello!
>
>
> Chris Haught from SEDC asked me a question about how UT school libraries
> handle lost and/or overdue book fees. Chris said, “I searched and found a
> lot of opinions and district policies, but nothing definitive. I once was
> told that it was illegal to charge elementary school students for lost
> books, and even fines because they were too young to enter into a contract.”
>
>
> Any ideas on this topic? We would love to hear your input.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Sarah Herron
>
>
>
>
> *Sarah G. Herron*
> Conference Chair, Utah Educational Library Media Association
> Library Technology Teacher, M. Ed.
> East High School
> 840 South 1300 East
> Salt Lake City, Utah 84102
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Lanell Rabner, MLS
Librarian
Springville High School
1205 E. 900 S.
Springville, UT 84663
lanell.rabner at nebo.edu
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