[Library Media] Library girl - this guy's perspective

JaNae Kinikin jkinikin at weber.edu
Fri Dec 20 12:39:42 MST 2013

>From an academic librarian's perspective, I ask that you continue teaching
Dewey.  Most college and university libraries use the Library of Congress
Classification System and knowing one number system helps students transfer
to a different system.  If interested, please take a look at the call
numbers lesson found in the HeLIOS tutorial http://helios.weber.edu.


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:23 PM, KENDALL CRITTENDEN <
KENDALL.CRITTENDEN at wasatch.edu> wrote:

>  I agree with those who have commented that we shouldn't throw Dewey
> away. As has been stated by many posts, we jump around too quickly in
> education and follow every new bandwagon that comes along.
> As I teach my students, Melville Dewey was a genus. His idea in 1876 is
> just a solid today as it was then. His system works as well today as it did
> then, even with all of the new topics and subjects that we have added since
> then.
>  I like the ideas suggested by some that books could have a separate genre
> label put on them, if you have time to do that it would be a great idea.
> One of the main things I remember from the library media classes I took
> many years ago was that we catalog books in our libraries where the
> patrons, our students, are most likely to find them. I do that, or try to,
> to this day. I don't always follow the rules of Dewey as I catalog books,
> nor do the rest of you. We put books where students can best find them.
> But, in my opinion, that is by following the Dewey system. We need to teach
> it to our students.
> LuAnne might remember this, as we took classes together. We were taking
> classes out of Logan, sitting in the UVU library. My sixth grade daughter
> attended classes with me, so that I didn't have to drive home alone late at
> night. The teacher was speaking about a certain book and LuAnne turned to
> my daughter and said, "Patricia, go find that book for us." Patricia, a
> sixth grader, got up and went out into that big college library. She was
> gone for 20 mins. or so, but she came back with the book. I don't know who
> had taught her the Dewey system, but she understood it well enough to find
> the book.
> Let's teach our students how to use a library and the Dewey system. It is
> a life skill that will assist them into the future.
> Kendall Crittenden
> "There are so many wonderful things in life to be afraid of, if you just
> learn how scary they are."
> From *The Tale of Despereaux* movie
> from the desk of:
> Kendall D. Crittenden
> Library / Media Specialist
> Timpanogos Intermediate School
> 200 East 800 South
> Heber City, Utah 84032
> (435) 654-0550
> kendall.crittenden at wasatch.edu
> home e-mail: kdcritt at msn.com
> >>> Luanne Olson_media <olson at alpinedistrict.org> 12/20/2013 7:52 AM >>>
>  It is essential that we maintain the focus of our purpose in the
> library. We are teaching skills to educate students to be life long
> learners. The skills they learn transfer to life--other libraries and
> learning environments. Elementary and secondary students are learning basic
> research and information skills. They are emerging readers. Don't confuse
> them with "specialty" collection trends. Assist them to identify and locate
> what they need. A library collection becomes fragmented with "pull-out"
> sections. It is my experience that a well maintained and organized library
> collection is the best for students.
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Bill Goodrich <bgoodrich at dcsd.org> wrote:
>> We need to do what is best for the kids. What does abandoning Dewey do
>> for kids that are going to college? Do we leave Dewey just to creat
>> temporary momentum and excitement? If we shelf by genre do kids get in a
>> rut and never experience anything new?
>> In popular culture there is so much of jumping on every band wagon that
>> comes by that we don't stop to consider the wisdom of those that have been
>> on the trail for centuries. I may just wait to see if this trend is still
>> popular in a year or two.
>> On Thursday, December 19, 2013, Emily Davenport_fms wrote:
>>>  There is so much crossover these days I can't imagine trying to shelve
>>> fiction by genre.
>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Heather Tomlinson <
>>> htomlinson at mountainvilleacademy.org> wrote:
>>>  I agree - Dewey is much too useful to abandon...
>>> However - I'm with James Wilson (previous message thread) who asked if
>>> any of you have decided to organize fiction by genre. How did it go? Are
>>> you glad you did it? Any pointers for anyone else considering it?
>>> I'm in a K-9 school, and have divided the library into two sections. One
>>> for everyone (K-9, but focused on K-2) and one for 3-9 only. I think genre
>>> shelving could be VERY useful for the older fiction section. BUT, then I
>>> think about logistics: multi genre books? labeling books (in the catalog
>>> and on the spine)? library volunteers who already struggle with two fiction
>>> sections (even adults...)?
>>>  On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Joseph Nielsen <
>>> Joseph.Nielsen at slcschools.org> wrote:
>>>   It is entirely possible that the posting of this article came at a
>>> bad time for people to respond. I know I am having brain overload and
>>> working on mega doses of caffeine right now. (Ever tried putting a chunk of
>>> baking cocoa on your mouth and using Jolt Cola to slowly melt it? That will
>>> make you wired higher than Calvin & Hobbes.) So don’t get too bent out of
>>> shape when the replies slowly trickle in.
>>>  And I agree with Marianne Bates, if your Principal doesn’t have a clue
>>> about what you do, you have no one to blame but yourself (unless your
>>> administrator is just totally clueless).
>>>  But I’m not so sure that I see huge value in abandoning Dewey. Having
>>> worked in one of Utah’s largest independent retail bookstores for 8 years
>>> before becoming a librarian, I can tell you that genres are very arbitrary,
>>> can be very difficult to assign, and sometimes so large as to be
>>> overwhelming. Take, for instance, one of my favorite books to read to 5
>>> th graders who are studying American History, “Mountain Man, the story
>>> of Hugh Glass.” It is written as fiction, but his experience and all the
>>> principle events described in the book are firmly established as historical
>>> facts. It’s the details that were created to tell the story. So do you
>>> classify it as Historical, Biographical, or Western? Do you use Explorers,
>>> Mountain Men, or US History? And since it does tell the story of an
>>> historical event – do you perhaps even put it in Non-fiction, as I have
>>> seen some catalogs do? Any one of those classifications could be
>>> overwhelming in size.
>>>  The whole idea of Dewey is to be genre oriented, Mammals have their
>>> place, Weather has its place, Fairy tales, and Myths are separated between
>>> the 200’s and the 300’s. If you are worried about whether a book is in the
>>> right place you can decide for yourself how you want to align the
>>> classification of Dewey to fit your library and your readers. There is no
>>> governing body that is going to come to your library and condemn, or down
>>> grade it just because you chose to put the book about the movie Dinosaur
>>> under 781 instead of 567 where the CIP put it. Make your own choices and
>>> decide these things for yourself.
>>>  And all this comes with the added bonus of helping students learn to
>>> use decimals.
>>> Emily Davenport
>>> Teacher Librarian
>>> Frontier Middle School
>>> 801-610-8777 x759
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JaNae Kinikin
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Stewart Library
2901 University Circle
Weber State University
Ogden, UT 84408-2901
jkinikin at weber.edu
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